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H8T fiat 11-12-2009 08:31 PM

Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
I have a :


http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...per/gun242.jpg


All the shotguns I've ever have had iron sights. I'd like G.I.M.er's opinions on what type of sights I should put on this . I like the thought of a red dot /E.O. Tech type sight , but in the shtf situation ....batteries might be hard to come by so am also considering ghost rings.

Abouthadit 11-13-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
red dot for low light situations.

Doge 11-13-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
My opinion, ghost ring.

farscott 11-13-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Iron sights. Red dot sights, especially EOTechs, really do not stand up to 12-gauge recoil. At least not for many rounds.

I admit to being a fan of the Wilson ghost ring rear paired with the XS front sight. Very fast and very easy to see.

horseshoe3 11-13-2009 02:20 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
EOTech claims their sights run 1000 hours on a set of batteries. Resupply shouldn't be a problem.

bwelkk 11-13-2009 05:43 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horseshoe3 (Post 2024036)
EOTech claims their sights run 1000 hours on a set of batteries. Resupply shouldn't be a problem.

That's about a month and a half. A new aimpoint will last 8 years on a AA, running continuously.

Fin-Angler 11-14-2009 08:21 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
1 vote for post sites.
I have a marine 500 I'll be adding iron"Ghost" sites on.
http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/s...mon/ppk005.jpg

If low lite conditions are a concern put the money into a good flashlight w/pressure switch & mount.
Target recognition in low light is most important.
most encounters could happen at close range so a simple "Point& Pull would be fine,Once you can verify a target.

Ag_man 11-14-2009 11:43 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fin-Angler (Post 2025155)
1 vote for post sites.
I have a marine 500 I'll be adding iron"Ghost" sites on.
http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/s...mon/ppk005.jpg

I've got the same rig, I think the bead sight is less than optimum. Can you recommend a set of ghost ring sights?

Fin-Angler 11-14-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ag_man (Post 2025352)
I've got the same rig, I think the bead sight is less than optimum. Can you recommend a set of ghost ring sights?

I'll most likely be going OE w/ Mossbergs 590 ghost sites.
I'm thinking the parkerized(black) version will make a good color contrast.

S_Goldberg 11-14-2009 01:00 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by farscott (Post 2024025)
Iron sights. Red dot sights, especially EOTechs, really do not stand up to 12-gauge recoil. At least not for many rounds.

I admit to being a fan of the Wilson ghost ring rear paired with the XS front sight. Very fast and very easy to see.

This is BS. The Aimpoint and eotech are more than tough enough to withstand 12ga recoil.

farscott 11-14-2009 05:23 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S_Goldberg (Post 2025443)
This is BS. The Aimpoint and eotech are more than tough enough to withstand 12ga recoil.

Ah, no it is not. I have gotten to test more than a few; 12-gauge and EOTech is not a good combination.

The usual issue is the recoil will damage the battery compartment contacts. Other issues are loss of zero or wandering zero. But no need to believe me. Here are a few links.

http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc...p/t-87034.html

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=46984

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=463953&page=4

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 11-14-2009 05:52 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Love the Remi Marine 500 but only because the regular one rusts up with any tiny teeny weeny fingerprint mark left on it, if not wiped down after every single handling... However, rust = neglect...

But, Never Ever Ever would I waste money on anything but Maybe Maybe Ghost ring sites on a shotgun! You will never need a Red-Dot for a Scatter-Gun!

However, if I didn't know any better and I needed to waste my money, I might buy this if eye felt the need to have the added security of hitting a life threatening threat in a highly intensive stressed out sitchi-ahhh-she-ohn : http://www.lasermax.com/product.php?id=20

I have seen them fer half that price, in gun stores...

Fin-Angler 11-14-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

SirSilverOzzyyzzO
Love the Remi Marine 500 but only because the regular one rusts up with any tiny teeny weeny fingerprint mark left on it, if not wiped down after every single handling... However, rust = neglect...
I think you mean the Remi marine 870?
Quote:

But, Never Ever Ever would I waste money on anything but Maybe Maybe Ghost ring sites on a shotgun! You will never need a Red-Dot for a Scatter-Gun!
+1 red dot & aimpoint and lasers are a waste of dough on a "Boom-stick"
The best add-on IMHO is a flashlight(target recognition/confirmation) is VERY important in a low light situation.Optics & Laser dots don't help in distinguishing an intruder,neighbor,family member or prowler.(remember the newlywed in FL who dispatched his lovely bride by mistake)

Quote:

However, if I didn't know any better and I needed to waste my money, I might buy this if eye felt the need to have the added security of hitting a life threatening threat in a highly intensive stressed out sitchi-ahhh-she-ohn : http://www.lasermax.com/product.php?id=20

I have seen them fer half that price, in gun stores...
usually avoid all dual purpose attachments if one thing fails it can render the other useless.I + K.I.S.S

S_Goldberg 11-14-2009 10:47 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by farscott (Post 2025709)
Ah, no it is not. I have gotten to test more than a few; 12-gauge and EOTech is not a good combination.

The usual issue is the recoil will damage the battery compartment contacts. Other issues are loss of zero or wandering zero. But no need to believe me. Here are a few links.

http://forums.officer.com/forums/arc...p/t-87034.html

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=46984

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...=463953&page=4

SO there have been some failures of Eotechs. I'll concede that you might want to look at the other options based on that. Although, those links provide no concrete data to determine how widespread the problem is or if it was simply a percentage that were defective.

I still stand by my claim regarding your comments about the aimpoint.

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 11-15-2009 04:07 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Yes, I meant the 870...

It's also my opinion that a Mossberg feels cheap.

I did add a spec ops breacher's grip to my Remi, and I highly recommend it if you have your Remi for home protection, as I do! http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Shotgun-Stocks,165.htm

H8T fiat 11-15-2009 08:05 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirSilverOzzyyzzO (Post 2026308)
Yes, I meant the 870...

It's also my opinion that a Mossberg feels cheap.

I did add a spec ops breacher's grip to my Remi, and I highly recommend it if you have your Remi for home protection, as I do! http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Shotgun-Stocks,165.htm

Why are you posting in this thread ? I don't care about you're opinion unless it pertains to a sight system for a M 500 .Thank you.

SirSilverOzzyyzzO 11-15-2009 11:28 AM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H8T fiat (Post 2026380)
Why are you posting in this thread ? I don't care about you're opinion unless it pertains to a sight system for a M 500 .Thank you.

Because I have nothing better to do than to get under your skin, and because you are silly enough to have ever contemplated putting a Red-Dot on your shotgun.:RockOn: Just trying to help a brother out... Jeeze...

P.S. Why do you have your wedding picture as your AVATAR? That's just not right... Thank-you.

illuminate10 11-15-2009 10:04 PM

Re: Mossberg 500 Ghost ring vs. red dot.
 
Ghost ring sights for sure.

They come in handy for 50 yds out and further with slugs. I get about within 2" with the ghost rings vs. about 6" with the bead.
Red dot, why depend on electronics (some what fragile) for sights? Not to mention the battery..........I can see it used more for a handgun where you have only one projectile at a time but a shotgun.....your more likely gonna use buck/bird(multiple projectiles) in close where a red dot is more useful anyway.


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